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Quick one on this one, will try again with the screenshots as the 16:10 isn't right

In Fullscreen mode couldn't select any 21:9 res when on eyefinity and even in windowed mode couldn't select anything higher than 1920x1080, someone with 21:9 monitor may have better luck.

I hope I've filled everything else out right, shoot me down if wrong! Well not proper shoot more tell me

I do have to say thanks to Julien for coming, saying hi and mentioning the game, it's really surreal and some good puzzples

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You should be able to simulate 2560x1080 on a FullHD monitor with this tool
http://www.wsgf.org/forums/viewtopic.ph ... 43&p=11832

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You did excellent mate. Thanks a lot for this. To get a 16:10 res with Eyefinity, you have to either break you Eyefinity group or boot up with just one monitor plugged in. It's crazy, but that's how they role. I generally choose the one monitor method. That way when I plug the other two in, the Eyefinity group is still there.

Can you also grab screen caps for the cut-scenes and FMVs?

after my reply I had to delete it, went into the game to get a few screens and bam there it was an FMV

Just looking to see if it stretches or Hor+ etc

EDIT: After running through the FMV a few times (5) I noticed I got it wrong.... it seems to be vert- from 4:3 to 16:10 to 16:9 then from 16:9 to eyefinity it's Hor+, wha\t do i put that as? I've changed it to vert- as that's the main behaviour, I'm sorry I missed that in my first set of screens, I've uploaded a new set from in-game, I'm just sorting out the FMV ones now

Edit 2: Now added FMV screens

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Hi guys, I thought I'd chime in about the FOV thing to explain how the game works.

You correctly deduced the aspect ratio behaviour (at least part of it).
I tried many different things and settled on the following solution:
Between 16:9 and 3x 16:9, the horizontal FOV expands.

Between 16:9 and 4:3, the vertical FOV expands. I wanted to preserve the original game behaviour as I didn't see any reason to change that part.
Essentially, the game is originally designed for 16:9 TVs and 16:10 monitors (which is all we have at work).
4:3 is our backwards compatibility mode for old-ass TVs, and we decided expanding the FOV was the most reasonable way to experience the game on these. Not that you'd want to...

As for the extremes, below 4:3 I go back to contracting the horizontal FOV again so that you don't get a huge vertical FOV, and above 3x 16:9 I start reducing the vertical FOV, as the horizontal FOV would become huge and normal rendering algorithms start breaking down at some point (not to mention the wall clipping and near plane issues). I decided 3x16:9 was a fair max limit to the FOV.

So there's essentially 4 different types of FOV adaptation going on depending on aspect ratio. I settled on this after playing with the window size in windowed mode to cover all possible aspect ratios (you can try and play with it), to be future proof.

If you can think of a better solution, I'll be happy to discuss it with you and make a patch if it does seem like an improvement

Julien Barnoin

As I'm up and about and messing with something codewise I thought I would give it a go and the higher ups can tell me if I'm wrong.

I think the general idea is 4:3 is standard, you should always then expand the horizontal FOV in each case of going wider, so in my series of screenshots above instead of losing a bit off the top and bottom when we go from 4:3->16:10->16-9 therefore chopping his feet off, we should just get more the the left and right of our views.

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We realize that 4:3 really isn't taken into account these days. However, we do want to see more hFOV between 16:10 > 16:9 > 21:9. You could just cut the hFOV in 4:3. If you didn't want to do that, you could make the on 4:3/5:4 resolution with a larger vFOV, while the widescreen aspect ratios follow the fixed vFOV and expanding hFOV. this could be for anything from 15:9 all the way through multi-monitor.

The other thing you could do is make the 16:10 and 4:3 (or just the 4:3) anamorphic in 16:9 widescreen. This would mean that they have the widescreen image formatting with black bars. Think how anamorphic movies work.

Thanks for clearing that one up when I noticed my mistake I made the edit but glad you cleared the rest up as that got a little complicated.

Still a lovely game

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Like most game studios I'm sure, we work exclusively on 16:10 or 16:9 screens. We actually had have a colleague bring out an old CRT SDTV from his garage a few weeks before release so we could check that 4:3 actually worked
Try buying a 4:3 TV or monitor nowadays, it's not easy.

I do think it's a bit strange that the crowd of 16:9 gamers is requesting a change to the 4:3 mode that they'll never play. I don't think the game will be more playable for them if I do that, and you guys won't see any difference.

So, I'll think about what I should do for that, I certainly didn't come here to start an argument. I might add an option in the next build so that you guys can try it, I'll let you know if I do that.

Respectfully,
Julien