Widescreen Gaming Forum

I found the setting I'm using now from one fo the review page here, One of the setting should give you a good baseline to play with.

http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review/2008/review-dell-2709w.html#Introduction

Once setup, it looks almost as good as my Sharp 46" LCD that I use for TV and Blu-rays.

hmmm i don't understand what i must do to have the right calibration, can you expalne it to me please ? :(

Like I was saying, the 2709W will have a larger pitch because it's the same 1920x1200 resolution as a 24" on a bigger panel. Any 2560x1600 30" is going to have very close to the same pitch a 24" 1920x1200 does. The problem with 30" panels has been not as much support for 2560x1600 res in games, heavy duty hardware required to run at that res, input lag, and of course price. The worst thing to do IMO is get a crappy brand in 30", like Gateway.

I think you should consider some of the 26" panels out there. They are an actual 25.5" size, so not much larger in pitch than a 24, yet you can get them affordably in the S-IPS type. The DoubleSight DS-265W is only about $700, vs a grand or more for a 30". It matters a lot how far you plan on sitting from the display though. How many feet will you be away from it?

Some pixel pitch sizes, just for comparison:

30" @ 2560x1600 = .2524
24" @ 1920x1200 = .2692
26" (25.5 actual) @ 1920x1200 = .2861
27" @ 1920x1200 = .3029
32" (HDTV) @ 1920x1080 = .369

As you can see, the 26" @ 1920x1200 is fairly well suited in size and pitch for overall use. It comes right in between all the others. All the better that you can get one in a high grade S-IPS panel at a good price. The DS-265W uses the same panel Tamlin's has btw, it just doesn't have the polarizer filter coating on the screen and built in LUT for fine tuning colors and profiles. It does however have less input lag because the video processing on the NEC slows it down a bit. IMO the cheaper DoubleSight is actually better for gaming because of this, though it doesn't come close for pro photo work.

Hello m8, i hope you can help me out for the last time :) i have the 2709W right now and like to know from you if it's better to replace him for the DELL UltraSharp 3008WFP ?

My questions are: does that monitor has no input lag and can i play call of duty WAW on that monitor because the game res. goes till 1920x1200.

Hmmm i don't know what to do and right now i can still replace him for the 30''

Please let me know.

Ok, well i changed my 2709W after a week for the 3008WFP rev.a01 and i must say what a difference :D

Tamlin or frag maniac can you tell me what the best settings are for playing cod 4 and 5 ?

Hey frag maniac, do you enable sync every frame ? i just did it and it looks much better when playing cod waw. less blurry when you moving from right to left

Ok, well i changed my 2709W after a week for the 3008WFP rev.a01 and i must say what a difference :D

Tamlin or frag maniac can you tell me what the best settings are for playing cod 4 and 5 ?

Congrats! :D

Here's where to join the 30"''ers:
http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/groupcp.php?g=8009&sid=b510f2e55a42c1608c330103d0bdfc25

Best settings depends always on what you can get of framerates with as much eyecandy as possible. For hardcore, higher framerates are preferred towards eyecandy, since it helps the aim and movements.

Vsync gives some lag, so its not recommended in multiplayer if you can avoid it. In single player, its nice!

[quote]Ok, well i changed my 2709W after a week for the 3008WFP rev.a01 and i must say what a difference :D

Vsync gives some lag, so its not recommended in multiplayer if you can avoid it. In single player, its nice!

Lag ? nooooo, it looks much better and play's also better.
Who told you that ?

When it comes to gaming, there is no rule of thumb concerning VSync. Some games don't need it at all as they don't have screen tear problems, some need it and it can affect performance negatively a lot, some actually perform better with it on. It depends entirely on the game.

[quote][quote]Ok, well i changed my 2709W after a week for the 3008WFP rev.a01 and i must say what a difference :D

Vsync gives some lag, so its not recommended in multiplayer if you can avoid it. In single player, its nice!

Lag ? nooooo, it looks much better and play's also better.
Who told you that ?

Its all over the internet. You'll find people complaining about it everywhere. I read the explaination somewhere, but can't find it at the moment. It was something about drivers automatically rendering some frames ahead when Vsync is enabled and thus giving a delay. Since I'm not sensitive to input lag that much, I haven't bothered reading too much about it for myself, so I paid attention only for community sake and those that are sensitive to it. :)

One remedy that helped at least Nvidia users have been to reduce the frames to render ahead in the Nvidia CPL.

As Frag maniac mentioned, using Vsync has different impact on games, so not every game benifits from it. This you'll see as you go along.

Tearing is a common problem and also that games gets choppy when overfed frames. Many uses alternative programs as well to remedy this, here's one popular:
http://www.pagehosting.co.uk/rf/
That one is used if your monitor can handle refresh rates thats below 60 in cases where Vsync otherwise would cap your framerate to 30 due to low average.
You also have the D3D overrider included in rivatool and there are options for tripple buffering and overriding in ATI tray tools as well.