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I can't think of a single item I would label "good" DLC in a singleplayer game. The only time it's appealing is when they sell it all in a box, like with Oblivion and Fallout 3. And there's still that lingering doubt that the complete game really is all there.

Well, that's your opinion, and you're entitled to have it of course. I just don't agree... I choose to download all my games anyway for the most part, and so the only difference with DLC is that it is smaller (and for a smaller price). So the only important thing is quality... a lot of DLC has that, and thus I buy it. Simple.

It was just revealed today that the GTA4 DLC is coming to PC and I am ECSTATIC about it.

Different strokes and all that...

the only difference with DLC is that it is smaller (and for a smaller price).

When you factor in *all* the available DLC for any given game, it's still smaller than a proper expansion pack, but usually costs quite a bit more.

So the only important thing is quality... a lot of DLC has that, and thus I buy it.

A lot of DLC also, by the virtue of its existence, lessens the quality of the vanilla game.

You can go on assuming all DLC is content ripped from the game and content not worth playing Cranky, but the only person who suffers for it is yourself.

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Awwwww.... damn.

Ok, name TWO!

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UT3 Titan pack/patch.

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Awwwww.... damn.

Ok, name TWO!

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UT3 Titan pack/patch.

Oh wow I completely forgot about that. That was a game changer.

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Awwwww.... damn.

Ok, name TWO!

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UT3 Titan pack/patch.

That's multiplayer again, FYI.

I think my point was that it was far from a situation where PC gamers were constantly drowning in a flood of free official content for singleplayer games. There have been a half dozen examples listed here of singleplayer games with free content, some small some not, and that's fine. I still think my point is correct though, I still think this idea of tons of free content for singleplayer games in the past is a massive exaggeration.

It mostly applies to multiplayer... $10 for more maps and all that. I understand that itself is a massive change from what PC Gamers are used to... I am not arguing that point. I am only talking about the singleplayer stuff.

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Awwwww.... damn.

Ok, name TWO!

:cry:

UT3 Titan pack/patch.

That's multiplayer again, FYI.

I think my point was that it was far from a situation where PC gamers were constantly drowning in a flood of free official content for singleplayer games. There have been a half dozen examples listed here of singleplayer games with free content, some small some not, and that's fine. I still think my point is correct though, I still think this idea of tons of free content for singleplayer games in the past is a massive exaggeration.

It mostly applies to multiplayer... $10 for more maps and all that. I understand that itself is a massive change from what PC Gamers are used to... I am not arguing that point. I am only talking about the singleplayer stuff.

Most crapbox DLC is multiplayer...

Stop twisting your words.

The Titan Pack is not exclusively MP. With a game like Unreal Tournament it's difficult to create a solid line between SP and MP, as they're both the same. (What Epic try to pass off as 'story' for UT is hardly worth looking at...)

Discounting MP DLC is rather silly. ;) It's still DLC. And if we do discount MP DLC (in whatever shape or form) then what are we left with on the PC? Oblivion DLC (most were appalling value (Horse Armour, Mehrune's Razor, Orrery) or came close to breaking the game (Frostcrag Spire) - only one bit was pretty good (Knights of the Nine)) Fallout 3 DLC (one, perhaps two, bits were good value) Mass Effect (one was good, one was reported quite bad) and Dragon Age: Origins (while most is 'free' - but requires signing up to two different sites! - I have yet to see any real 'value' in it) so if I go by that, DLC by the vast majority is terrible value for money. :( It becomes better when it's all bundled together, but it's still an expensive way of getting relatively little increased playtime. :(

I think I'm going to leave the DLC discussion here. I'm not quite as negative about it as Cranky (although I do agree with him for the vast majority of his opinion on this subject) so I suppose I'm in the middle somewhere when it comes to the two extremes of "OMG! Must Have Two Maps For $10!" and "All DLC Is Terrible."

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Now, anyone care to talk about Dragon Age again? I'm currently stuck on the Gauntlet puzzle. Well, 'stuck' is the wrong word - it's easy, I just can't be bothered with DAO right now and that is as good an excuse as any. ;)

Most crapbox DLC is multiplayer...

Stop twisting your words.

I've said singleplayer from the begining dude, and I have said "crapbox" DLC is bad from the begining, so stop twisting MY words (again), thanks.

This entire thread frankly reads like "cranky old PC gamer fears change." There's always benefits and downsides to new ideas and industry changes and you support the stuff you agree with and reject the stuff you don't, but a lot of you just seem to hate the new ideas because they are different, not what you are used to, and that upsets you. Fear is a prime motivator for negativity and I see that on PC forums across the Internet, this being no exception.

I don't suffer from that crap, I play games because I enjoy them... I spend money on them because they are worth it, and again, because I enjoy them. I pay $60 for MW2 with a smile on my face and I paid $65 for the collector's edition of Dragon Age with a smile on my face. If DLC is good, I will buy it, if it isn't, I don't.

So you guys go play politics and wish it was still 1995, I'll be over here playing some awesome games. Thanks.

Now, anyone care to talk about Dragon Age again?

(HINT)